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Every revival has its Old Lights and skeptics

John Fea   |  February 13, 2023 Leave a Comment

If you’ve been following my ongoing curation of the Asbury University revival going on right now, you will see that there are a lot of skeptics. Anyone who knows something about the history of revivalism in the United States is aware of the fact that revivals, while offering much unity within the evangelical communities experiencing them, often lead to division within the body of Christ. In the eighteenth-century, the Congregationalist churches in New England split between New Lights (the supporters of the First Great Awakening) and Old Lights (Christians who believed the revivals were not an act of God). In the Middle Colonies, a similar division took place among the Presbyterian Church. The anti-revivalists were known as “Old Sides” and the pro-revivalists were called “New Sides.” In some of my past and ongoing work I have explored the history of local communities divided over the First Great Awakening. Many of these same divisions also occurred during the Second Great Awakening. For example, the Presbyterian Church divided again over revivalism–a story historian George Marsden has told with clarity in his first book The Evangelical Mind and the New School Presbyterian Experience.

So it should not surprise us to find people who do not believe what is happening in Wilmore, Kentucky is a “real” revival. Many want to take a “wait and see” approach. These folks know that true revivals often bear fruit in terms of Christian witness in the world. But what kind of fruit will such a revival bear? It is clear that the Second Great Awakening led to social activism. Those saved and revived during these revivals pushed for the end of slavery, the rights of women, the curbing of alcohol use, and the reform of prisons. Some have suggested that the First Great Awakening led to an anti-slavery movement in New England and elsewhere as disciples of Jonathan Edwards, a slaveholder himself, sought to apply their evangelical faith to the peculiar institution. Still others have tried, wrongly I believe, to connect the First Great Awakening to the coming of the American Revolution. Many Christian nationalists have co-opted this reading of the First Great Awakening.

I have been following the Asbury Revival closely online and I see several manifestations of Old Lightism:

  1. Christian Nationalist Old Lights
  2. Pro-LGBTQ Old Lights
  3. Social Justice Old Lights
  4. Biblicist Old Lights
  5. “I’ve Seen This Before” Old Lights
  6. Anti-Enthusiasm Old Lights
  7. Calvinist/Confessionalist Old Lights
  8. Anti-Racist Old Lights
  9. Snarky Old Lights

Here are some examples:

Christian Nationalist Old Lights: These are folks who believe the Asbury Revival is not sufficiently addressing the need to reclaim America for Christ:

Revival is great. Asbury is great. It's all great.

But none of this is going to stop Christianity from being cleansed from America. Your children will live in an America without Christianity.

The only thing that can stop it is returning to the faith of our fathers. https://t.co/m3guIcePRE

— International Order of Christian Men (@OrderChristian) February 11, 2023

Unless what's happening at Asbury leads them to repent of promoting and supporting Feminist Marxism, it's not truly biblical revival which leads to a reformation of the affections along with a return to biblical doctrine for the church… pic.twitter.com/1JYC1GR2tW

— Charles Johnson 🇺🇸⚓️ (@soli_Jesum) February 12, 2023

LGBTQ Old Lights: These are Christians who believe that what is happening at Asbury is not a true work of God because of Asbury’s conservative position on gay marriage and LGBTQ issues:

Which image is God at work in the word? Could be both. But if they end up being in opposition is that the case? What we mean by the word church will largely determine the answer. pic.twitter.com/G1DSXNF2ca

— Dwight Welch 🇺🇦 (@servetus) February 12, 2023

If a revival produces this kind of faith that responds in love to neighbor then we can celebrate the Asbury revival. But given the status of LGBT folks in that college I am at least willing to withhold judgement until the revival plays itself out and we can see its fruits pic.twitter.com/z60hOKeCZh

— Dwight Welch 🇺🇦 (@servetus) February 12, 2023

Shane is promoting a church service at Asbury as "revival" while the school still discriminates against LGBTQIA+ folks, calling their identity and life sinful.

Shane is enabling a harmful socio-theology that praises conservatism but is materially exclusionary. https://t.co/j9oe71FJna

— A9 (@A9Collective) February 13, 2023

Powerful images from the #AsburyRevival. 5 days of nonstop worship and lives transformed… pic.twitter.com/E8owcXvxM2

— Shane Claiborne (@ShaneClaiborne) February 13, 2023

Social Justice Old Lights: These Christians will remain skeptical until they see, like the Second Great Awakening, an outpouring of social justice in the revival’s wake:

Getting caught up in a rapture of music & prayer can v well happen when communing w a demon. If this is truly reviving the community's communion w the Xian God, then an explosion of "social justice" is about to happen (!!). Jeremiah 9:24; 22:15–16; Matt 25:31–46. May it be so.

— Andrew Rillera (@AndrewRillera) February 11, 2023

True revival takes care of widows and orphans.

True revival delivers good news to the poor and freedom to the oppressed.

True revival brings tangible help to the “least of these.”

If Asbury turns into that, praise Jesus. If not, then it’s just a really long worship service.

— Zach W. Lambert (@ZachWLambert) February 12, 2023

Biblicist Old Lights: These Christians want more Bible and preaching. They are not comfortable with all the singing and testimony:

I’m seeing lots of pictures and video of singing at the Asbury revival. Are there any pictures of preaching or reading of Scripture? Would love to see! Heck, I would love to see anyone with a Bible. #AsburyRevival

— Mike Towers (@miketowerstweet) February 11, 2023

Another version of this:

I don’t believe what happening at Asbury College is a revival. This isn’t spreading nation wide. It’s a Christian College which means the people attending should be saved. I don’t see anyone talking about Repentance. I just hope the Christian grifters don’t capitalize off of this

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 12, 2023

Exactly. When I looked into I noticed a whole of singing and what not but no one is preaching the Gospel. pic.twitter.com/WkJKqHtC1n

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 12, 2023

If this is a God-given revival, maybe we can get some gifted expositors of their preaching circuits and reach out to Asbury if Asbury is willing to let God’s Word go forth. Just a thought… https://t.co/R5tH19EYbU

— 𝕸𝖆𝖙𝖙 𝕷𝖊𝕻𝖆𝖌𝖊 đź“– (@MtZionAD33) February 13, 2023

I’ve Seen This Before Old Lights: These are Christians who were raised in families and churches in the evangelical revivalist tradition. Their skepticism is based on past experiences:

I know this is probably 90% overreaction to my childhood upbringing but I find it very difficult to take this Asbury revival thing very seriously.

— Steven Blann (@blannwich) February 11, 2023

Anti-Enthusiasm Old Lights: These are perhaps the closest to Charles Chauncy’s critique of the First Great Awakening. Too much emotion. These Old Lights are similar to the Biblicist Old Lights.

If you care about what is going on right now Asbury U then look away. The rushing wind of SM hysteria is now the sort of air that candle needs.

Pray.

And check back in two months from now.#asburyrevival

— Paul Carter (@pastrpaulcarter) February 11, 2023

A revival of emotionalism, I'm afraid. https://t.co/Pmbw1pOxgM

— Wade Lentz (@wadelentz) February 11, 2023

So many run to jump on “the revival” bandwagon regarding event at Asbury. This appears now different than the Brownsville boondoggle. We need discernment and testing spirits. pic.twitter.com/VVEeNSySwP

— Timothy L. Price (@SlickPen50) February 12, 2023

A version of this:

Looked at bunch of video clips shared on the hashtag and, honestly, it seems to me like the Asbury students just decided to hang out and sing their favorite songs instead of going to class this week?

— Eliza (@TfabEliza) February 12, 2023

Update: I’ve received news from people at Asbury that this statement is not what’s going on but instead is focused on rebuilding relationships and a deep sense of self reflection so we retract using the phrase sugar rush. https://t.co/ff7nbSr5GA

— The New Evangelicals (@newvangelicals) February 13, 2023

Help me out here… all the vids I've seen of the Asbury U "revival" is emotional singing of songs. Is there more to this "revival" than singing in a chapel building?

— Timothy Decker (@timldecker) February 13, 2023

Give people an emotional experience and they'll believe anything.

— Nathaniel Jolly – Eph 4:29 (@NathanielJolly) February 13, 2023

Calvinist /Confessionalist Old Lights: Too much free will or “Finneyism.” They may not like the revival is happening in a Wesleyan/Holiness university.

Finneyism is regrettably with us in every age. Asbury loves them some Charles G. Finney, too.

— Z.D. Houghton 🦬 (@zdhoughton) February 12, 2023

Like you, I’m a former RB turned Lutheran, but before that, we had years in very different churches, and had experiences with a lot of revivalism. None of it, I am sorry to say, was biblical or pointed back to where we actually find Christ—where He has promised to be.

— Z.D. Houghton 🦬 (@zdhoughton) February 12, 2023

Anti-Racist Old Lights: These are people who do not believe that the Asbury revival is a movement of God because there are hardly any people of color who attend Asbury University.

Like, when a room full of white folks gather in God’s name, I do not believe that God is real, no.

— David Dault is writing today (He, His) (@DaultRadio) February 12, 2023

I can't speak for the university, but Asbury Seminary has over 70 nations represented. It has students and faculty from diverse nations & 'races.'
Have you prayed that this would be real? If it turns out not to be, it should be against your most fervent prayers.

— Daryl Meese (@AttentionNinja) February 13, 2023

So when people at the #asburyrevival are saying, "this is what heaven looks like," then the camera pans to a sea of white faces, with maybe a speck of brown, I start to have questions.

Is this what white American Christians think about heaven? If so, that explains a lot.

— Tashara Mitchell Angelle, M.Ed. (@TasharaAngelle) February 13, 2023

A quick thought on this. Earlier today I watched the start of the chapel service that triggered this revival. The music was performed by what appears to a predominantly Black gospel choir.

Snarky Old Lights:

Oh heavens. That happened once to me at seminary. People locked the doors and we couldn't get out until we spoke in tongues.

— Diana Butler Bass (@dianabutlerbass) February 12, 2023

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