A few things online that caught my attention this week:
Critical thinking
Some historical perspective on Donald Trump–here and here
John Wilsey responds to David Brooks responding to Ta-Nahesi Coates
An Englishmen observes the Confederate State of America, And here
Summer reading for oral exams
Heath Carter on Scott Walker, evangelicalism, and union-busting
Atticus Finch vs. Francis Simkins
Historiann on how to choose a publisher for your book.
What did Lincoln think of Thomas Jefferson?
One-sided memories of the Civil War
David Blight and Gregory Downs discuss CiviL War memory
Gay marriage and Christian colleges
Pope Francis on global capitalism
Morgan Lee on American Girl Dolls
D.G. Hart asks: When did Christian America end?
Christian voters no longer have ignorance as an excuse. This had better be what you want because you're going to get it, in spades.
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/07/evangelical-colleges-struggle-gay-marriage-ruling/398306/
That might be because many Christian voters agree that gay marriage is okay with them. It also might be because they understand what discrimination is and disagree with it as well.
In other areas, nice inclusion of the History instead of heritage piece. I've noticed a lot of historians are explaining the history of the Civil War right now and a large number of people seem to reject the reality that slavery was the cause of the Civil War. These same people seem to think that they are accomplishing something other than proving their ignorance by driving around in pick up trucks with CBFs waving from them. Some of them seem to want to roll the clock back to pre-Civil Rights times.
Blogger Jimmy Dick said…
That might be because many Christian voters agree that gay marriage is okay with them.
Fine for them. Those who don't should realize that the government assault on religious and quasi-religious institutions is just beginning, and they are complicit.
That would be your opinion, not mine. If you consider discrimination acceptable, then I am sure you will keep couching your words behind the concept of religious liberty. However, what you keep forgetting is that quite a lot of people in the faiths involved in these religious institutions want them to change.
There is a reason why religion in general is losing people. It is not the fault of the people themselves, but the fault of the people running the religions. When they do not meet the needs of the people, those religions either change or fade away.
That would be your opinion, not mine. If you consider discrimination acceptable, then I am sure you will keep couching your words behind the concept of religious liberty. However, what you keep forgetting is that quite a lot of people in the faiths involved in these religious institutions want them to change.
Oh, I quite agree. O'Sullivan's Law.
There is a reason why religion in general is losing people. It is not the fault of the people themselves, but the fault of the people running the religions. When they do not meet the needs of the people, those religions either change or fade away.
“Religion in general” is not a locution any genuine Christian recognizes.
“Religion in general” is not a locution any genuine Christian recognizes.
That is part of the problem.
The problem is Christians allowing themselves to be bullied into surrendering their institutions to this counterfeit of the Christian religion. Moralistic Therapeutic Deism is an aggressive and evangelical faith, and it is ruthless to its enemies.
Make no mistake, Obergefell is just the beginning: Like the man said, Where orthodoxy is optional, orthodoxy will sooner or later be proscribed.
If he’s right — and I think he is — then the church is in an unprecedented historical situation, and it had better first get a good handle on telling its story to itself. I’m told by friends who teach at Christian colleges and universities that it’s shocking how little their undergraduates who profess to be Christians know about the Christian story, and why it matters as a guide to truth. Hence Moralistic Therapeutic Deism: the idea of God as cosmic butler and personal cheerleader.—Rod Dreher
&c. God exists to meet our needs, to make us feel good about ourselves. And woe to him who argues otherwise.
http://summitview.com/blog/entryid/264/Unfolding-or-Unraveling-The-Importance-of-Narrative-in-a-World-without-One
Again, you state your opinion and think it must be the only opinion. You do not possess the only faith or interpretation of the faith. There are over 25,000 different Christian sects in the US alone. What is really going on is your version or beliefs are being challenged and you don't like it.
There was this man who came to Jerusalem and he challenged the Jewish rabbis' version of God and their faith. You can find the story of that in the Bible.
As always, you prove my point. Thank you. I'm speaking of religious and quasi-religious institutions who do not share your version of Christianity, religion, or even “religion in general.”
You are their future. I hope it's what they want. This time around, ignorance is no excuse.
“You must not abandon the ship in a storm because you cannot control the winds…. What you cannot turn to good, you must at least make as little bad as you can.”
∼ St. Thomas More, Utopia
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/after-obergefell-the-effects-on-law-culture-and-religion
Discrimination is discrimination. You may not like gay marriage. You may not discriminate based on that belief. You are beginning to see changes made by the followers of various religions in their religions. That is their choice. You may not like it. That is your choice.
In religion, discrimination between good and bad, sinful and not, is good and necessary. Except in Moralistic Therapeutic Deism, I suppose.
http://www.modernreformation.org/default.php?page=articledisplay&var2=917
Based on numerous studies conducted by his research group, evangelical pollster George Barna writes: “To increasing millions of Americans, God-if we even believe in a supernatural deity-exists for the pleasure of humankind. He resides in the heavenly realm solely for our utility and benefit. Although we are too clever to voice it, we live by the notion that true power is accessed not by looking upward but by turning inward.” Unless something changes, Barna thinks, “it will be every man for himself, with no second thoughts or regrets about the personal or societal implications of this incredibly selfish, nihilistic, narcissistic way of life.
“In short, the spirituality of America is Christian in name only.”
For Christian institutions who still hold to orthodox Christianity, the bell is tolling for thee.
Something will change. Religions will adapt to the needs of the people. Some will adjust and gain members. Others will not and they will decline.
Discrimination is discrimination. Calling it religious is a cop out. It is not necessary at all. Some are recognizing what their members want. Others are determined to stick to their positions. Here are two that made good decisions.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/07/20/two-christian-colleges-announce-they-will-hire-faculty-members-same-sex-marriages
Blogger Jimmy Dick said…
Something will change. Religions will adapt to the needs of the people. Some will adjust and gain members. Others will not and they will decline.
Discrimination is discrimination.
Yes, you keep repeating that “discrimination” tautology as though discrimination is self-evidently bad. Along with predictions of doom for religions who do not adapt “the needs of the people.”
You continue to illustrate my point to whatever orthodox Christians exist among Dr. Fea's readership. The US government will force religious institutions to institutionalize homosexuality, that all sex acts are created equal. Better to surrender now voluntarily, and save the money on lawyers.
But let's make no mistake: Your argument is not theological or philosophical, it's a victory dance for the triumph of brute force in both civil and ecclesiastical politics.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/07/20/two-christian-colleges-announce-they-will-hire-faculty-members-same-sex-marriages
Breakthrough for Gay Christian Professors
July 20, 2015
By
Scott Jaschik
Two Christian colleges — Eastern Mennonite University and Goshen College — announced Monday that they will change their hiring procedures to permit the hiring of faculty members who are in same-sex marriages.
While such a policy would not be surprising at most colleges and universities, it represents a dramatic shift in Christian higher education.
Tom,
You keep wishing to ignore the issue of discrimination because it is inconvenient for what you want. You ignore everything you do not like. That is your choice. There is no point is discussing anything with you because you refuse to accept change. Whether you like it or not, religion changes. When it does not, that religion fades away. You made your choice and that is your problem now, not mine.
In the Christian religion, discrimination is good, and necessary. They call it “sin.” Or at least they used to.
You don't seem to want to take yes for an answer. I expect almost all of the putatively Christian colleges to cave before the government, Moralistic Therapeutic Deism, and to persons such as yourself.
The few with the guts to stand up for religious orthodoxy will be demonized by their opponents, and undermined by those who lack the courage of their own convictions, if they have any.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=O%E2%80%99Sullivan%E2%80%99s+Law
O’Sullivan’s Law states that any organization or enterprise that is not expressly right wing will become left wing over time. The law is named after British journalist John O’Sullivan.
Television shows are the best examples of this. 24, House. Charitable foundations are worse but harder to see.
One of the reasons for this is leftist intolerance versus right-wing tolerance. Right wingers are willing to hire openly left-wing employees in the interest of fairness. Left-wingers, utterly intolerant, will not allow a non-Liberal near them, and will harass them at every opportunity. The result over time is that conservative enterprises are infiltrated by leftists but leftist enterprises remain the same or get worse.
Also, leftism is in and of itself a form of decay. It’s what happens not just to television shows but to nations, churches and universities as the energy given off by the big bang of their inception slowly ebbs away. Rather than expend vitality in originality and creation they become obsessed with introspection, popularity and lethargy. Leftism is entropy of the spirit and intellect.
Another reason is that the parasitic nature of Liberals/Leftists attracts them to existing money.
An enterprise can stave off O'Sullivan's Law if their creators keep it in mind and remain vigilant and truthful.
O'Sullivan's Law hit 24 when they finally had a Muslim villain then started running disclaimers that Muslims aren't all terrorists.
The Annenberg Foundation was started by a Republican but it didn't take long before O'Sullivan's Law had them handing a domestic terrorist money for educating kids.
The ACLU, the Ford Foundation and the Episcopal Church all fell to O’Sullivan’s Law…
Here's your diehard Christians, Tom. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-gun-shop-owner-declares-store-%e2%80%98muslim-free-zone%e2%80%99/ar-AAdhVCa
O'Sullivan's law misses basic reality. Everything skews left over time. Also, the individual who wrote it is blatantly making up his version of reality to reflect his political ideology. He basically is ranting about change from his perspective in which any change to the left is a mistake. Gee, that's just too bad.
Not to mention the law derives from a British right wing political commentator named John O'Sullivan. I think he has an issue with liberalism in that it challenges his world view. I don't have a problem with that because I reject the conservative world view as one that is intolerant. All you have to do is look at the current GOP frontrunner to find that out.
Look up Melvin on Twitter and enjoy his ideology. It is the usual right wing whine.
O'Sullivan's law misses basic reality. Everything skews left over time.
You still have trouble taking yes for an answer. You and those like you will succeed in taking over most of America's Christian institutions. Nobody's disagreeing with a word you say. In fact, it's good for people to see you reveal your contempt for their beliefs so baldly.
It is not contempt when one states facts.
I'm afraid my comment is going to get lost in the above debate, but I love your link on Critical Thinking, John. It does seem to have a 'buzz-phrase' character on campus. In my classes at Indiana Wesleyan it has come up often, especially in my current class. My clearest impression of what it's supposed to be is: something we students aren't doing enough of yet…
Nor some who purport to teach it. 😉
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